Introduction First, let me
stress that this site does
not purport to be a primary source site on information about raw dairy
products nor their place in RAF/RVAF diets. However, via the raw foods
lists and
via private e-mail, I am repeatedly asked by folks for my opinion, as
well
as my personal dietary practices, regarding raw dairy products and
their
place in a RAF/RVAF diet. Some of the controversy likely
arises because
dairy products, especially, cow dairy, are not really a Paleolithic
food,
but rather entered the human diet quite a bit later, and rather only
recently
(at least as any sizeable percentage of the diet.) It can be
argued
that the archeological record shows that some small amounts of raw
dairy
from goats, yaks and sheep may have been consumed by some humans in the
late
Paleolithic period, but it is rather obvious that cow dairy products
entered
the human diet only much later. Further, it is argued by many
that
the nature of this latecomer -- cow's milk -- has changed radically
from
that found perhaps 2,000 years ago because of selective breeding
practices
to enhance udder size and milk production, and because of modern
feeding
practices. Because of this fact, many Paleolithic diet
systems (both
cooked and raw) exclude cow dairy products, even raw cow dairy
products,
and often all dairy products (such as even that from goats or yaks,
even
if raw), from their lists of permissible foods. So do many raw foods
systems
which embrace raw animal foods as well. On the other hand,
some RVAF
dietary systems (such as Johnny Loveswisdom's Paradisian diet, the
Essene
diets, and Aajonus Vonderplanitz's Primal Diet) embrace raw dairy
wholeheartedly,
as so some partially-cooked Paleolithic-type diets (such as Sally
Fallon's
Traditional Diet and the Weston Price diet.)
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To my knowledge
(and this has been checked by others as well) none of the RAF/RVAF,
near-RAF/RVAF, or partially-cooked Paleolithic dietary systems cited on
the accompanying overview page (overview of RVAF and near-RVAF systems)
on this site espouse or allow any cooked
(pasteurized) dairy at all, and rather, if they embrace dairy at all,
they
tend to allow only raw dairy products. Please see other sites
-- of
which there are plenty if you want to learn more of why some folks feel
that cooked (heated, pasteurized) dairy is harmful for you.
Indeed,
several of these anti-heated-dairy sites quote even a number of Western
medical
doctors who are against the human consumption of (heated, at least)
dairy
products.
Opinion
and Observations
I
firmly believe that cooked
(heated, or
pasteurized) dairy is not good for the human body. As noted above, even
a number of MDs and researchers within the Western medical tradition
have
come to the same conclusion, and the evidence they cite is overwhelming
-- there are numerous web sites and books explaining and espousing this
position. Western medical pediatricians seem to be in the
forefront
of this movement against pasteurized dairy consumption. Some go further
and condemn all dairy products, including raw as well, as unfit for
human
consumption, and some cite numerous statistical and population studies
to
prove their points.
On the more
"alternative" or "natural health" side, Sally Fallon and the Weston
Price folks, among others have documented a lot of reasons why
pasteurized dairy may be harmful to the body.
Additionally, Dr. William Douglass has authored a book on the benefits
of raw
dairy.
I believe that raw
dairy is likely very
useful for some (not all) people on a RAF/RVAF diet, especially in the
early
stages. In private discussions, Aajonus Vonderplanitz, the founder of the Primal Diet, has told me that
he believes that raw cow dairy seems to act as a super-fuel to power
deep cleansing and healing, far more so than even raw meat; we have
discussed this matter several times, and it is apparent that he
believes that anyone can benefit from regular
consumption of raw cow dairy. I agree with his belief to the
extent
that I will state that I feel that raw cow dairy can be useful for some
people
some of the time, dependent largely upon genetics and other factors
(current
state of health, etc.) However, and this is where I differ
from Aajonus,
I believe that raw dairy can at times be very hard on the body,
depending
upon a person's genetics (and resultant biochemistry), and I believe
that
therefore each person must carefully gauge for themselves whether raw
dairy
is helping or harming them, as well as how much to use, and for how
long
to use it. Particularly, I strongly believe that raw dairy
can vastly
accelerate bacterial "infectious" processes (apparently Aajonus
believes
this as well, based upon some private conversations, but views this as
solely
beneficial.) Although it is likely true that most or even all of these
internal
infectious processes may be attempts by nature and the body to perform
deep
cleansing of damaged tissues and toxins, it must be admitted that these
reactions
can range to mildly debilitating and rather prolonged, and even to very
disabling
and very prolonged. Witness my own major and violent
healing/cleansing
crisis (bacterial/infective in nature) in February and March 2001,
precipitated
by a drastic increase of the percentage of raw cow dairy in my
diet.
I was rather effectively disabled for about 6 weeks due to this
cleansing
crisis, with massive pain, swelling, headaches, fatigue, gut
involvement,
and fever. I chose to ride it out, as I knew that this
"crisis" would
not permanently harm me, but would likely help me to heal, but it still
resulted
in six very painful weeks.
Raw cow dairy is
NOT a Paleolithic food, and thus it is likely that our genes have not
optimized our biochemistry
for handling such a food in significant quantities, and this fact alone
helps to bolster my own experience-derived and intuitive wariness and
caution
about raw cow dairy. My own belief is that goat's milk (raw,
of course)
is somewhat easier on the human body than is cow dairy, and
closer in
composition to the small amounts of (goat, sheep, yak) milk which our
ancestors
may have ingested long ago.
If you are going to
eat raw dairy products, I strongly encourage you to purchase only
organic pasture-fed (grass-fed) dairy.
Having shared my
reservations about raw
cow dairy, now let me state that my own observation seems to be that
for
those folks who can tolerate raw cow dairy, it does seem to accelerate
healing, and specifically, cleansing. Specifically, I note
apparently accelerated iris color change in the eye. A vast
number of Western alternative
healing traditions recognize eye color change in the direction of
lighter
colors (green, blue, gray) as indicative of very deep healing and more
specifically, deep cleansing, within the body. For
some reason, my own informal observation seems to indicate that folks
on RAF/RVAF diets who ingest significant quantities of raw dairy
experience more rapid shift in iris color to lighter colors.
Aajonus appears to believe this as well, based upon prior conversations
with him.
For myself, as I
noted on the Live-foods list in April 2001, I have chosen (guided by my
intuition) to largely eliminate raw cow dairy from my day-to-day diet,
effective early April 2001, because I needed my energy for various
projects and activities, and while ingesting significant quantities of
raw dairy I tend to want only to sleep all day
-- feeling very fatigued, likely from accelerated cleansing and
healing.
I continue to use moderate amounts of raw cream and small
amounts of
raw cheese, as well as an occasional intake of small amounts of raw
butter
- I never drink raw milk, nor do I regularly use raw yogurt or kefir.
It
is also true that raw dairy contains large amounts of hormones and
opiate-like soporific bioactive substances, and it may simply be that
these opiate-like substances were making me sleepy. Wai
Genriiu addresses this point
at length in her book listing many reference citations in the
scientific
literature (incidentally, her book offers many arguments and citations
arguing
against the consumption of any dairy products at all, whether raw or
cooked.)
Therefore, my current daily
raw dairy intake is only modest amounts of raw cream, modest amounts of
raw grass-fed organic (cow's milk) cheese at times, particularly the
heavily aged and ripened
cheeses which have moldy rinds and have a strong smell, and perhaps a
bit
of butter every other weekend in the form of a modified "lube formula"
(aka
"lemon meringue": raw butter, raw eggs, raw lemon and raw honey.)
What Do I
Think of Raw Goats Milk?
As far as goat's
milk: as cited above, the RawPaleoDiet page does not purport
to be a resource site specifically on raw dairy (again, maybe someday
this will be added as a sidebar feature), nor on raw goats
milk. Any reference to those food products at this time is
largely incidental, and not intentional. My opinion on raw
goat dairy is stated above.
How Does
Aajonus Vonderplanitz Feel About My Position on Raw Dairy?
In the first
quarter or 2001, I wrote an e-mail to the Live-foods list regarding my
opinion at the time (it has not changed much) on heated dairy and raw
dairy. I had cc'ed Aajonus on the letter, and shortly
received a reply from him, which he gave me permission to publish on
the list.
At Sun, 31 Dec 2000
10:26, Aajonus wrote:
Hi,
Vinny,
Please
post this. I've tried to use a bit of your humor.
Vinny had
written:
*note:
Cow dairy: I do not seem to fare really well with large
quantities of raw cow dairy, and that, coupled with the fact that I
cannot easily find raw milk or cream here where I live, and can find
only pre-frozen salted raw butter, helps
buttress my choice to keep my raw cow dairy food intake rather
low.
If I could get hold of good raw goat's milk, then I might use more
(goat)
dairy than I currently do. Lastly, I have some intellectual
concerns
(prompted by small intuitive nudgings) about cow dairy in any sizeable
quantity, since it seems to the scientist part of my mind that dairy is
primarily
a Neolithic-era (later epoch) food rather than a Paleolithic-era food.
Aajonus replies:
You
drive a car, that is certainly a Neolithic-era tool. The
analogy is a severely weak
argument. If the food or tool works to better life, then the
prejudice
is detrimental when it comes to health.
Vinny had
written:
Further,
no animals seem to drink the milk of other species (there are no
goat-milk sucking bats, or cow-milk sucking hedgehogs!).. . . .
Aajonus replies:
I
don't see any other olive-oil-sucking,
electrolyzed-reduced-water-sucking, ORP-of-843-sucking,
MegaH-sucking, freeze-dried-barley-grass-greens-juice-sucking,
spirulina-powder-sucking, calcium-magnesium-sucking, supplement-sucking
animals either.
Vinny had
written:
and
most importantly, conventional Western medical epidemiologists have
compiled an incredibly convincing and frightening indictment
of heated (cooked, or pasteurized)
cow's milk and it's nasty effects upon the human body (strong
correlations
between rate of consumption of heated cow dairy with occurrence of MS,
cancer,
heart disease, stroke, osteoporosis and infectious illnesses) and I am
not
100% sure if that nasty effect is due solely to the
heating suffered
by pasteurized milk.
Aajonus replies:
You
have chosen to
remain in frightening ignorance. To invalidate this thinking
consider
that arteriosclerosis has increased exponentially with the increased
consumption of pressed oils and the decrease in raw dairy consumption.
(see Price-Pottenger.org, and WestonAPrice.org). As I have said, 90% of
the pressed oils, whether cooked
or raw, consumed, except for coconut, are converted into solvents that
attract
minerals ("calcification") and dehydrate the tissues, including
arteries.
To
further discharge this rationale look at the tribes that thrive on raw
animals' milk (especially cow's milk) that have no trace of cholesterol
contamination: Masai, Samburu and Hunzas. The Samburu have a
custom that men of a certain age are only allowed to drink milk. For a
decade, or there about, they drink only raw milk.
I
have consumed massive quantities of raw milk throughout the years,
consistently. I developed angina at the age of 15 on pasteurized dairy.
Angina is caused by heart-tissue
contamination. I have consumed approximately 32,000 quarts of
raw
dairy in 30 years. If the theory above were correct I would
have been
dead of every disease that they blame on dairy! Contrarily,
from severe
illnesses that included some of those blamed on dairy, by drinking tons
of raw dairy I have recovered from the very diseases that are blamed on
dairy.
You have been
reading too many medical and
intellectual horror stories that have rare or no basis in reality
regarding raw milk.
Vinny, hone
your thinking, quickly, you may instil
in people rationale
that may
be harmful to them.
lovingly,
aajonus
------ end of reply
from Aajonus ------
Some
Off-Site Links on Raw Dairy and
Its Benefits, Including Hazards of Heated Dairy
Check out the pages for the Real Milk
movement and the Raw
Milk -- Right to Choose Healthy Food movement.
For a unique,
supposedly Christian scripture-based argument advocating consumption of
organic grass-fed raw dairy products
(and arguing against eating commercial pasteurized milk products) which
would likely make most modern advocates of raw milk blush, you must
read a diatribe/argument on the
Essene Diet of Jesus aka "The
Jesus Diet",
written by Rev Abba Nazariah, DD, of a modern-day Essene church,
arguing that Jesus Christ wanted us to drink raw organic milk!
William C.
Douglass, MD, has published a
book entitled The Milk
Book, which promotes the use of raw dairy
products and provides sound scientific evidence that raw dairy and raw
animal fats are very healthful for the body and do not cause
cardiovascular disease or osteoporosis (both are diseases which have
been linked in the scientific literature to consumption of pasteurized
dairy.)
Some
Off-Site Links on Hazards of Eating All Dairy Products - Presumably Raw
as Well as Heated (Pasteurized or Cooked) Dairy
Probably the best known site
advocating against human consumption of milk is the No Milk website,
with numerous links to other such sites. Then, of course, as
mentioned above, there is Wai Genriu's site advocating her RVAF diet,
and her page, named Milk
Causes Bone Decalcification, which attempts to
prove that all milk consumption (raw or heated) is harmful for humans.
Among many dozens of such
pages, there is also Robert
Cohen's Notmilk site,
which also contains many links as well.